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AVRant #14: Release the Geek

August 14th, 2007 Leave a comment Go to comments

Kurt takes a stab at the correct Denon pronunciation which leads into a discussion of other alternate pronunciations. Bobmac’s rant comes up (Tom talks about his mom), Tom challenges you to let your inner geek out (and we learn about Dina’s geek secret), Tom’s take on the vinyl vs. CD debate, and whether or not a burned CD is better than a pressed CD. A short discussion about the Audioholics party sneaks in at the end. Tom edited this in a Chili’s Too in the Atlanta Airport and on a plane to and from Boston so if he missed some of the times that Dina hit the mic or if some of the cuts are a little rough, he apologizes. See you Thursday!

Edit: Gene says, “Basically if a record is cut at too high a level, the playback cartridge and stylus will be unable to track it. At both low and high frequencies, the cartridge will be unable to cope with excessively wide groove excursions. This is why they had to be more careful with recording levels back in the day and make proper usage of equalization to get the best overall frequency response.”

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  1. August 14th, 2007 at 12:11 | #1

    When Tom said “Yamaha-ha” I couldn’t help but think of the fat kid singing video that I saw a few years back. This is a crappy copy with bad audio, but you’ll get the point:

    http://www.savemartha.com/fat_kid_singing_video.html

    This week’s podcast was great! I really enjoy listening to you guys make fun of stuff. Keep up the good work!

    (P.S. I tried to email you guys from two email servers and all the email is bouncing…)

  2. August 14th, 2007 at 15:40 | #2

    I talked to my people and they tell me we’re moving our site from one server to another. By tomorrow, all should be fixed. Sorry for the inconvenience.

  3. lea
    August 14th, 2007 at 19:49 | #3

    love how dina came clean with her nasty little scrapbooking habit. “my name is lea and i too am a geeky scrapbooker. help me please…”

    also, dina- when did you win a limbo contest in college? all i remember is our tragic loss of the lipsync contest… “what have you done for me lately” by janet jackson still brings me to tears. aah, the dreams that were destroyed the day we lost that competetion… sigh…

  4. August 14th, 2007 at 20:42 | #4

    I think Tom’s Den-HON impression reminds me of Inspector Clouseau …

    I can’t wait til Dina runs into an Onkyo receiver at CEDIA and attempts to talk about it – what a hoot…

    Back when I worked for Soundelux, we used to pronounce it “So Un-delux” which I thought was a hoot.

    This was like the gripe episode but it was quite entertaining – loved it.

    And as always, Dina, thanks for being totally here for us.

    PS. I bought Tom his friggin shirt – so shut up about being so dang poor!

  5. BobMac
    August 15th, 2007 at 16:16 | #5

    As always, a very entertaining podcast.

    But I do have to disagree with Tom about the sound quality of vinyl. CDs are more convenient and don’t suffer the ticks and pops of vinyl, but vinyl still sounds better to my ears. Maybe it is the mastering, so then I prefer the sound of vinyl masters. I still buy vinyl albums every so often, and the price is about three times the cost of a CD (about $30.) How sad is this: I own some albums on vinyl, CD, and iTunes. I wish I could buy stock in Weezer.

    As far as a home-made CD sounding better than a store-bought one is just crazy. Although, I do know people (and even some musicians) who prefer the “iTunes sound.” Apparently, Apple’s software for encoding sound files adds a little processing that makes them sound sweeter. I remember reading about musicians who run their songs through this software then master the albums using the iTunes files. So perhaps some people like the compressed sound files more than the uncompressed ones.

  6. August 15th, 2007 at 23:56 | #6

    Bob;

    There is no doubt that Vinyl can sound better than CD and CD is certainly NOT perfect. With the advent of DVD-A and SACD, there shouldn’t even be a debate anymore. Its too bad both of these high res formats matured into nothing more than niche market. Though, I am rather enjoying my collection of 60+ SACDs and DVD-As :)

  7. egr2rst
    August 16th, 2007 at 08:36 | #7

    Dina was right – Mom didn’t know better when she got the full screen edition of “Lord of the rings”.
    But you should have known better to criticize Mom on the podcast. WAIT TILL I TELL HER!
    Remember her birthday is coming up in October – you can make all this right and get her “geekified”.

  8. August 16th, 2007 at 10:40 | #8

    I have found that rushing parents into the fold of AV goodness is a futile effort. Ignorance is bliss and I have found that may parents are consistently about 7 years behind the times and QUITE happy about that. Eventually they come around – and what I’ve found is that they are EXCELLENT sources of information. For example – want to know what the “normal” people think? Look at your parents. Want to know whether or not high definition DVDs are really taking off as a mainstream format? Do your parents have it?

    Here is what I’ve determined based on looking at my parents:

    1. DVD has arrived and is mainstream.
    2. Digital cable has arrived and is mainstream
    3. My parents can’t really tell the difference between HDTV and digital TV.
    4. SACD? What’s that?
    5. DVD-Audio is the audio that’s on a DVD, right?
    6. Blu-ray is something that we’ve heard of (it is advertised everywhere) but we have no idea what it is.

  9. BobMac
    August 16th, 2007 at 11:55 | #9

    I never got into the SACD/DVD-A thing for one reason: there ain’t no albums I want on the format. I read (and I wish I could remember where) that vinyl albums outsell SACD and DVD-A combined. I hope those hi-res formats don’t foreshadow the fate of hi-def DVDs. Although, I’m sure all physical formats will die eventually…except vinyl.

  10. egr2rst
    August 16th, 2007 at 15:37 | #10

    Clint’s analysis is right on. Find out what we (Parents of Geeks) know (or don’t) and that’s the stuff to podcast about. Maybe some other people listening to the podcast are doing it to learn some things. Teach us.

  11. August 16th, 2007 at 16:22 | #11

    I remember when my Mom and I had a long discussion about why she can’t put a DVD she purchased into the CD player in her car to hear the soundtrack. It’s that sort of “it’s round like a CD, why doesn’t it work like a CD” thinking that has hurt (IMO) all other disc based formats. So now we have CD, DVD, DVD-A, SACD, HDCD, DTS-CD, HD DVD, and Blu-ray (I’m sure I forgot a few) that all look indistinguishable from each other. Not to mention the Hybrid discs that may or may not play in any given player (I’ve found that if it doesn’t work the first time, try, try again). I think that the next format to really make an impression with the general public will have to have a different form factor. I vote crystals (like in Superman).

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