Comments on: HD-A2 HDMI/DVI HDCP woes http://www.avrant.com/?p=194 Hosted by Tom Andry (of Audioholics) and Dina Clarke, this male-female team dissects home theater topics and products in a way that is funny, and makes the information very accessible to the common user. Mon, 06 Sep 2010 06:12:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: dina http://www.avrant.com/?p=194&cpage=1#comment-729 dina Mon, 19 Nov 2007 02:00:58 +0000 http://www.avrant.com/?p=194#comment-729 "Personally, I’d love to be in the room when Dina’s head explodes as she tries to read that title! We all know how much she like acronyms! Dude, you lost me at "HD-" “Personally, I’d love to be in the room when Dina’s head explodes as she tries to read that title! We all know how much she like acronyms!

Dude, you lost me at “HD-”

]]> By: ky22 http://www.avrant.com/?p=194&cpage=1#comment-728 ky22 Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:11:27 +0000 http://www.avrant.com/?p=194#comment-728 Okay, i am here to destroy Westinghouse especially the lvm-42w2. You think Vista and Leopard is bad meet Westinghouse. I was a guy that bought the Sharp LCD from your last podcast because 2 lvm-42w2 refuse to work. 1st one had a green stuck pixel on the screen and wouldn't turn back on after a while. I had to manually unplug and plug back the TV from the wall outlet (FW 1.16) and the second one has a giant gray banding in the middle of the screen and DVI one wouldn't sink properly with my HTPC so it would only be active once it reaches the windows logon screen. DVI 2 works though for some darn reason (FW 1.0) So it must be the Westinghouse (this is me ranting because I hate them with a vengeance!!) PS. HD DVD and BD has always been pwned(owned) by AnyDVD HD so HDCP has always been useless and annoying. Okay, i am here to destroy Westinghouse especially the lvm-42w2. You think Vista and Leopard is bad meet Westinghouse. I was a guy that bought the Sharp LCD from your last podcast because 2 lvm-42w2 refuse to work. 1st one had a green stuck pixel on the screen and wouldn’t turn back on after a while. I had to manually unplug and plug back the TV from the wall outlet (FW 1.16) and the second one has a giant gray banding in the middle of the screen and DVI one wouldn’t sink properly with my HTPC so it would only be active once it reaches the windows logon screen. DVI 2 works though for some darn reason (FW 1.0)
So it must be the Westinghouse (this is me ranting because I hate them with a vengeance!!)
PS. HD DVD and BD has always been pwned(owned) by AnyDVD HD so HDCP has always been useless and annoying.

]]> By: Jim R. http://www.avrant.com/?p=194&cpage=1#comment-726 Jim R. Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:10:54 +0000 http://www.avrant.com/?p=194#comment-726 Anyone play with the Panasonic AE2000u projector, you know, the one that does full 1080/24p and supports deep color? I'd really like to know if the HDMI input is less picky on that model. Of course, as a gamer, I'd like to see if it's fast enough for me, as well? Anyone?? Anyone play with the Panasonic AE2000u projector, you know, the one that does full 1080/24p and supports deep color? I’d really like to know if the HDMI input is less picky on that model. Of course, as a gamer, I’d like to see if it’s fast enough for me, as well? Anyone??

]]> By: clint http://www.avrant.com/?p=194&cpage=1#comment-723 clint Sat, 17 Nov 2007 12:41:05 +0000 http://www.avrant.com/?p=194#comment-723 I reviewed the Panasonic PT-AX200U projector. Wouldn't sync with my cable box or DVD player without stuttering the video and/or audio. Then, 1 day before I send it back, everything works perfectly. HDCP sucks, but so does Silicon Image (makers of the HDMI spec) who decided that it would be cool to leave HDCP OUT of the ATC standard. That's the very detailed standard that tells manufacturers EXACTLY how to implement HDMI. HDCP? Ah, let them figure it out themselves. I'm sure everyone will do it exactly the same... Idiots. So all these problems come down to the laziness of a company who has been soaring at Wall Street while customers experience various and asundry problems using their technology. They have since added HDCP to the spec - literally in the past few months. Better late than never? Still ticks me off since early adopters are the ones who get hosed. I reviewed the Panasonic PT-AX200U projector. Wouldn’t sync with my cable box or DVD player without stuttering the video and/or audio. Then, 1 day before I send it back, everything works perfectly.

HDCP sucks, but so does Silicon Image (makers of the HDMI spec) who decided that it would be cool to leave HDCP OUT of the ATC standard. That’s the very detailed standard that tells manufacturers EXACTLY how to implement HDMI.

HDCP? Ah, let them figure it out themselves. I’m sure everyone will do it exactly the same… Idiots.

So all these problems come down to the laziness of a company who has been soaring at Wall Street while customers experience various and asundry problems using their technology. They have since added HDCP to the spec – literally in the past few months. Better late than never? Still ticks me off since early adopters are the ones who get hosed.

]]> By: Jim R. http://www.avrant.com/?p=194&cpage=1#comment-720 Jim R. Sat, 17 Nov 2007 05:47:39 +0000 http://www.avrant.com/?p=194#comment-720 I had HDMI syncing problems with my Panasonic AX100U projector and an Older sony DVR that I used with my local cable company. Did the same thing as Tom's setup, there. If I turned everything on, the DVR would default to 480p. I was able to switch it to 720p, and it would resync correctly. However, the black level was incorrect. So, I'd turn of my Psyclone (Best Buy) HDMI switcher and turn it back on, then the black level would be correct as well. Of course, if I just excluded the switch box, the problem was the same, only I didn't have a switch box to turn off to force the re-sync. I got tired of doing this after 2 months and switched back to using component video cables. Works perfect every time! Now, my Toshiba A2 doesn't have any problems at all syncing to my projector, switchbox or not. Durning one of the firmware revisions, I did get a periodic flicker every hour or two, but that went away a few updates ago. However, my other devices, like the PS3 and my new satellite box do that annoying flicker thing, only about once ever 15 mins. I think they might be getting the boot back to component video as well. Heck, all the games and video are "allowed" to run in HD over component video, just not upscaled DVDs. Who the crap ever even thought that Uplscaled DVDs need not run over component video. You can rip the source files on your pc and decrypt them easily. But I can't play them on my tv with a certain kind of cable, even though that cable is capable of it! Death to DRM!! I had HDMI syncing problems with my Panasonic AX100U projector and an Older sony DVR that I used with my local cable company. Did the same thing as Tom’s setup, there. If I turned everything on, the DVR would default to 480p. I was able to switch it to 720p, and it would resync correctly. However, the black level was incorrect. So, I’d turn of my Psyclone (Best Buy) HDMI switcher and turn it back on, then the black level would be correct as well. Of course, if I just excluded the switch box, the problem was the same, only I didn’t have a switch box to turn off to force the re-sync. I got tired of doing this after 2 months and switched back to using component video cables. Works perfect every time! Now, my Toshiba A2 doesn’t have any problems at all syncing to my projector, switchbox or not. Durning one of the firmware revisions, I did get a periodic flicker every hour or two, but that went away a few updates ago. However, my other devices, like the PS3 and my new satellite box do that annoying flicker thing, only about once ever 15 mins. I think they might be getting the boot back to component video as well. Heck, all the games and video are “allowed” to run in HD over component video, just not upscaled DVDs. Who the crap ever even thought that Uplscaled DVDs need not run over component video. You can rip the source files on your pc and decrypt them easily. But I can’t play them on my tv with a certain kind of cable, even though that cable is capable of it! Death to DRM!!

]]> By: skris88 http://www.avrant.com/?p=194&cpage=1#comment-719 skris88 Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:18:35 +0000 http://www.avrant.com/?p=194#comment-719 New Rant. What about headphone sockets? My old Kenwood (Prologic) reciever requires a jiggle before I get sound on my headset. Same with my HTC manufactured PDAfone. A search on the Internet reveals that the HTC problem is common across their range. Another 3c on manufacture with a slightly higher grade metal and more landfill saved! Sigh.... New Rant. What about headphone sockets? My old Kenwood (Prologic) reciever requires a jiggle before I get sound on my headset. Same with my HTC manufactured PDAfone. A search on the Internet reveals that the HTC problem is common across their range. Another 3c on manufacture with a slightly higher grade metal and more landfill saved! Sigh….

]]> By: skris88 http://www.avrant.com/?p=194&cpage=1#comment-718 skris88 Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:15:52 +0000 http://www.avrant.com/?p=194#comment-718 I'm glad my plan to avoid HDMI for now is paying off. There is more marketing bullcrap in the consumer electronics space than in any other - millions of dollars are being wasted daily by unsuspecting buyers, just check your shelves for all those unused and unusable little gadgets you have. Even a MP3 FM transmitter for my SUV - $99 requiring batteries fron a leading retailer, $30 and fitting into the 12V "cig" lighter (saving heaps of wastefill space re batteries) from my local Dollar Bargains shop. And it works VERY well, thank you! I’m glad my plan to avoid HDMI for now is paying off. There is more marketing bullcrap in the consumer electronics space than in any other – millions of dollars are being wasted daily by unsuspecting buyers, just check your shelves for all those unused and unusable little gadgets you have. Even a MP3 FM transmitter for my SUV – $99 requiring batteries fron a leading retailer, $30 and fitting into the 12V “cig” lighter (saving heaps of wastefill space re batteries) from my local Dollar Bargains shop. And it works VERY well, thank you!

]]> By: jnmfox http://www.avrant.com/?p=194&cpage=1#comment-717 jnmfox Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:27:19 +0000 http://www.avrant.com/?p=194#comment-717 When I was looking to get an LCD TV I was researching info about the Westy 42x2 and found a lot of people having problems with 1080p over the HDMI and DVI inputs. IIRC a lot of them were PS3 users. Over at AVS many people were stating it was a firmware issue and you had to send your TV to Westinghouse to have it updated. I went ahead and ordered the Westy, I have an Oppo 981 connected to the HDMI (upconverting to 1080p), and my HD DVR connected the DVI via an HDMI/DVI converter. Every once in a while when starting a DVD my screen randomly flashes and has sparkles. I just turn off, then back on, my TV and DVD player and it goes away. The blessings of ill conceived copy protection and the magic of modern day technology… When I was looking to get an LCD TV I was researching info about the Westy 42×2 and found a lot of people having problems with 1080p over the HDMI and DVI inputs. IIRC a lot of them were PS3 users. Over at AVS many people were stating it was a firmware issue and you had to send your TV to Westinghouse to have it updated.

I went ahead and ordered the Westy, I have an Oppo 981 connected to the HDMI (upconverting to 1080p), and my HD DVR connected the DVI via an HDMI/DVI converter. Every once in a while when starting a DVD my screen randomly flashes and has sparkles. I just turn off, then back on, my TV and DVD player and it goes away. The blessings of ill conceived copy protection and the magic of modern day technology…

]]> By: eugovector http://www.avrant.com/?p=194&cpage=1#comment-714 eugovector Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:42:37 +0000 http://www.avrant.com/?p=194#comment-714 I think it's time someone had a heart to heart with the media companies. DRM doesn't work and we should demand that they drop it all. Don't want to drop DRM? Fine, leave the digital space. You can't play in our sandbox. Transformers on VHS, I like it. Let the big media companies leave, I swear to you, there will be plenty of producers willing to fill the space. DRM is anti-consumer, plain and simple. You can bitch about internet pirates all you want, but you're not stopping them. You're only stopping your paying customers. Marshall ------------- The Real HT Info Podcast I think it’s time someone had a heart to heart with the media companies. DRM doesn’t work and we should demand that they drop it all. Don’t want to drop DRM? Fine, leave the digital space. You can’t play in our sandbox. Transformers on VHS, I like it.

Let the big media companies leave, I swear to you, there will be plenty of producers willing to fill the space.

DRM is anti-consumer, plain and simple. You can bitch about internet pirates all you want, but you’re not stopping them. You’re only stopping your paying customers.

Marshall
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The Real HT Info Podcast

]]> By: Tom http://www.avrant.com/?p=194&cpage=1#comment-713 Tom Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:35:22 +0000 http://www.avrant.com/?p=194#comment-713 Personally, I'd love to be in the room when Dina's head explodes as she tries to read that title! We all know how much she like acronyms! Personally, I’d love to be in the room when Dina’s head explodes as she tries to read that title! We all know how much she like acronyms!

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